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Trader’s Corner: Veto the Trade Veto

We have quite a few interesting trades to vote on this week. Here at Trader’s Corner we vote on trades for fun. In some fantasy leagues owners are allowed to vote on other peoples’ trades, and if enough people vote No the trade is nullified. That is a great way to spoil the fun of trading. Having to defend your trade or argue with other jealous owners ruins the buzz or thrill you get from making a trade. Trading is supposed to be fun. Arguing about trades is not fun.

Trade vetoes have no place in a serious fantasy league and only contribute to endless arguing and debating that often turns nasty. All trades should be final unless the commissioner has overwhelming proof of collusion. If you think a trade was lopsided then you should have gotten to the victim first. So called “lopsided” trades very rarely turn out to have a major impact on the league. They certainly harm a league much less than arguing over other peoples’ trades does. Arguing breaks up leagues, lopsided trades don’t. Debating the merits of a trade quickly turns into arguing. People get angry and then quit when they don’t get their way. Get rid of the possibility of vetoing a trade and there is no longer a reason to argue. The jealous owners will just have to go out and make their own trade to catch up with the victor of the supposedly lopsided trade.

In dynasty leagues owners often have widely diverging strategies and opinions on how players will be valued in the future, so what seems like a lopsided trade to some people usually makes perfect sense to other people. That is why I don’t allow arguing over trades in my leagues. Everybody is allowed to run their teams the way they think is best. If they make bad trades their team will suffer for awhile, and that is how it should be. If you invite good, experienced owners to your leagues the dumb trades will be few and far between. I realize some people like to be able to veto other peoples’ trades and I respect their opinion, but in my leagues there will be no vetoes.

The trade veto is a relic of 1990’s public leagues when the Internet was brand new. Any league with a commissioner has no need for veto votes. Almost all dynasty leagues have a commissioner and therefore should do away with trade vetoes.

Time to Vote!

Lots of trades were sent in for us to vote on. Adrian Beltre, Josh Donaldson and Carlos Correa seemed to get traded a lot this week. Let’s get right to it. Vote for the group of players you would rather have.

Use the form just above the comments section at the bottom of the page to submit your trades for us to vote on next week.

Sent in from a 20 team 6×6 contract league with a $120 salary cap:

No league settings on this one:

No league settings for this one either:

This one came from a dynasty 6×6 league with 19 teams, 15 prospects per team:

The next four trades are all from the same 12 team NL-only dynasty league with 40 man rosters and a $300 salary cap. Some deep prospects here:

16 team mixed H2H 6×6 dynasty league. $310 salary cap, salaries increase 10% per  year. 25 man MLB roster and 15 man MiLB roster:

No league setttings submitted for this one:

No league setttings submitted for this one:

Dynasty 7×7 league with Total Bases and OBP:

This one comes from a 6 team league with massive starting rosters and small benches. 22 hitters and 9 pitchers started, 7 man bench. Six teams makes for a very small league. I don’t think I have ever seen a six team league:

Discuss these trades in the comments at the bottom of this page. Were these good trades, dumb trades, lopsided trades? You can ask my opinion on a trade as well. Follow me on Twitter @BlazingFastba11.

Want us to vote on YOUR trade? Send in any trades you want us to consider and I will put them in the next Trader’s Corner column. Be sure to include any background info that could affect the trade. Submit your trade using this contact form:

Nick Doran also writes for Fake Teams and Redleg Nation. Be sure to follow him on Twitter @BlazingFastba11.

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5 Comments

  1. May 16, 2015 at 10:55 am — Reply

    Hey Nick ,

    Have offered , Kyle Seager, Sonny Gray and Jason Kipnis for Kris Bryant, Danny Salazar and Carlos Corriea in a 20 team dynasty with 23 counting stats inc fielding % , been on the board for two days now, but I thought he would have bit my hand off. What am I missing ?

    • May 16, 2015 at 3:40 pm — Reply

      That is not a bad trade offer to send out. Seager, Gray and Kipnis are all proven major league studs. Bryant and Correa are hotshot prospects with tons of value, and Salazar has been pitching great. I imagine most dynasty owners would prefer to have the Bryant, Correa, Salazar side of that deal right now, but it is worth sending out the offer to find out. Perhaps an owner in win-now mode would prefer the three productive MLB players over the potential future stars.

  2. Mikey
    May 16, 2015 at 5:09 pm — Reply

    I was offered Hamels for my Castro, but I didn’t have a replacement SS so we modified it to Rollins and Hamels for Castro and Colome. Thoughts on that? Is it an improvement from Hamels for Castro? Thanks!

  3. May 19, 2015 at 12:19 pm — Reply

    Hey Nick,

    So I am a few months into taking over a neglected team, it was ignored for a year, and the roster going into this year was horrifying. In my draft I went purely for upside in hopes of having some sort of value to add to the team, a few of the guys have worked out, others haven’t. But this seems to have my roster locked into long term minor league investments. I’m obviously interested in having a long-term solution at multiple positions, but i’d like to have something to enjoy now as well.

    Now, in my league i’m not expecting myself to wave a magic wand and find the next magical Jose Bautista sleeper to save the day. But are there any specific stats you’d research to potentially find players who are merely more valuable than their current production beyond basic FIP, xFIP, BABIP, that wold indicate a longterm improvement? I’ve been writing about rate stabilization at fake teams, but i’ve yet to really find anyone that screams at me to add them. If you want to see the team, i’ll post the link below. i’ve also scoured HR/FB leader boards, and even looked into statcast info, to no avail yet.

    https://pwwbaseball.wordpress.com/teams/the-human-beings/

    Any help you can give would be much appreciated.

    Respectfully,

    Jack Cecil

    • May 22, 2015 at 9:39 pm — Reply

      Hi Jack,

      I have read your stuff on Fake Teams, so I know you are already fully up to speed on the advanced metrics. Have you played around with the new DRA and cFIP stats yet? I think K-BB% tells you 90% of what you need to know about pitchers. So that would be my favorite “go to” stat for predicting pitching breakouts.

      Looking at your roster, now might be a good time to sell high on Justin Upton and Wade Davis. I really like Jomar Reyes and Rafael Devers.

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